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    Podcasts showing up in Google Music

    I have sharing with Google Music disabled. I saw some other posts about .nomedia files, but I wasn't sure if I should be messing with that. How can I make the podcasts invisible to Google Music?

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    I am using 3.1.10 on my Galaxy Nexus CyannogenMod 10M2

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    On some newer devices (running Jelly Bean 4.2 and later) you may have to put a .nomedia file also in: /storage/emulated/legacy/BeyondPod folder as this is another place that Music is looking for.

    You can see more information here: http://www.beyondpod.com/forum/showt...d-Google-Music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StefanK View Post
    On some newer devices (running Jelly Bean 4.2 and later) you may have to put a .nomedia file also in: /storage/emulated/legacy/BeyondPod folder as this is another place that Music is looking for.

    You can see more information here: http://www.beyondpod.com/forum/showt...d-Google-Music.
    Thanks a lot for the response. That was the post I had originally read. I did put an empty .nomedia file in that directory and refreshed google music but that didin't help. All of those dirs appear to be symlinks to the same place.
    However, I'd prefer not to have to mess with the filemanager to do this. This seems like a bug in the implementation of the "Do not share with Google Music"
    Any other way to work around this?

    Thanks.

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    What is in this post is the only known workaround at this time. The problem is that Android actively looks for new files and adds them to the music collection and the only way to stop it is to add .nomedia files to the folders you want to ignore. Internally BeyodnPod does exactly that when you uncheck "Share Podcasts" setting.

    Keep in mind that adding .nomedia file will prevent adding of new files but will not remove the existing files until the media database is rebuilt. In order for files to be removed, you have to add the .nomedia file and rebuild the media database.

    Rebuilding generally happens when the device is restarted (during boot) but you can also rebuild it following the steps in this post: https://forums.motorola.com/posts/cf07acdc3a

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjrussell View Post
    I did put an empty .nomedia file in that directory and refreshed google music but that didin't help. All of those dirs appear to be symlinks to the same place.
    However, I'd prefer not to have to mess with the filemanager to do this. This seems like a bug in the implementation of the "Do not share with Google Music"
    Any other way to work around this?
    Manually adding .nomedia IS the workaround. That's what BP does behind the scenes to prevent Google Music from seeing podcasts. However, the recent JB changes have shifted the goalposts by adding symlinks to the old paths, and it appears that all the symlinks need their own .nomedia files. It may be that there are other symlinks that Google Music is using. Alternatively, clearing Google Music's cache, or Refreshing music (in Music's own settings) may help.

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    Ah, the clearing of the Media Storage data was the part that I was missing. I had added the .nomedia file but I selected refresh library from the google music app which isn't the same as clearing the Media Storage.
    All of the beyondpod stuff is gone from music player now.

    Thanks for the help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juwlz View Post
    Manually adding .nomedia IS the workaround. That's what BP does behind the scenes to prevent Google Music from seeing podcasts. However, the recent JB changes have shifted the goalposts by adding symlinks to the old paths, and it appears that all the symlinks need their own .nomedia files. It may be that there are other symlinks that Google Music is using. Alternatively, clearing Google Music's cache, or Refreshing music (in Music's own settings) may help.
    Trying to add additional .nomedia files in linked paths won't have any effect, since all such links point to the same place.

    Quote Originally Posted by StefanK View Post
    What is in this post is the only known workaround at this time. The problem is that Android actively looks for new files and adds them to the music collection and the only way to stop it is to add .nomedia files to the folders you want to ignore. Internally BeyodnPod does exactly that when you uncheck "Share Podcasts" setting.
    Keep in mind that adding .nomedia file will prevent adding of new files but will not remove the existing files until the media database is rebuilt. In order for files to be removed, you have to add the .nomedia file and rebuild the media database.
    What a .nomedia file seems to do is prevent old episodes from being added to Music during a media scan.

    The problem (here at least) isn't old episodes -- it's new downloaded episodes. What seems to be happening is that they get added as a result of download rather than media scan, so the .nomedia file has no effect.

    It's a very annoying problem that needs to be fixed soon because it makes the Recent tab in Music nearly useless. The work-around of deleting and rebuilding the Media database has the downside of screwing up phone audio settings.

    Thank you.
    Device model: Nexus 4
    Android version: 4.2.2 (JDQ39)
    Carrier: T-Mobile USA
    Last edited by JNavas; 03-26-2013 at 06:17 PM.
    Hope that helps,
    John
    [Nexus 5 running Lollipop 5.1 on T-Mobile USA]

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    Do you have by any chance "Share Podcasts" in Playlist and Widget Settings still unchecked? When episode is downloaded, BeyondPod gives it to the Android Media scanner to scan and retrieve the duration, title etc. This "scan" causes the record to be added to the media database. When "Share Podcasts" is disabled (unchecked), there are 2 things that happen - one is that BeyondPod puts .nomedia file to the /BeyondPod/Podcasts folder (which hides the podcast from future scans) but also this triggers a special logic that occurs at the end of the scan to clean the media database record that was created during the scan.

    If the record remains after scanning, then either you have .nomedia but "Share Podcasts" is still checked (which turns off the record deletion logic) or for some reason BeyondPod is unable to delete the record. I initially suspected that something had changed in the latest Android build. Tried a controlled experiment on Nexus 7 (4.2.2) and that deletion logic worked correctly so it should work on the Nexus 4 the same way.

    If it does not work for some reason, you can look at the Android log to see if anything unusual happens. After download and scan, BP tries to delete the record and outputs a line to the Android log with the result of deletion. It is something like:

    03-28 08:37:47.797: V/BeyondPod(2200): Deleted 1 records for /storage/emulated/0/BeyondPod/Podcasts/Freakonomics Radio/Freakonomics Radio94966641.mp3 from the Media Database (19 ms. since last trace) [MusicUtils]

    The easiest way to view the log is using a PC and logcat, but if you don't have a way to run it that way, in the latest beta build 3.1.13, I added the ability to view a portion of Android log (at least records BeyondPod writes). You can find it in: Menu > More > Settings > Menu > View Logs... > View Android Log.

    Stefan

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    Quote Originally Posted by StefanK View Post
    Do you have by any chance "Share Podcasts" in Playlist and Widget Settings still unchecked? When episode is downloaded, BeyondPod gives it to the Android Media scanner to scan and retrieve the duration, title etc. This "scan" causes the record to be added to the media database. When "Share Podcasts" is disabled (unchecked), there are 2 things that happen - one is that BeyondPod puts .nomedia file to the /BeyondPod/Podcasts folder (which hides the podcast from future scans) but also this triggers a special logic that occurs at the end of the scan to clean the media database record that was created during the scan.
    If the record remains after scanning, then either you have .nomedia but "Share Podcasts" is still checked (which turns off the record deletion logic) or for some reason BeyondPod is unable to delete the record. I initially suspected that something had changed in the latest Android build. Tried a controlled experiment on Nexus 7 (4.2.2) and that deletion logic worked correctly so it should work on the Nexus 4 the same way.
    If it does not work for some reason, you can look at the Android log to see if anything unusual happens. After download and scan, BP tries to delete the record and outputs a line to the Android log with the result of deletion. It is something like:
    03-28 08:37:47.797: V/BeyondPod(2200): Deleted 1 records for /storage/emulated/0/BeyondPod/Podcasts/Freakonomics Radio/Freakonomics Radio94966641.mp3 from the Media Database (19 ms. since last trace) [MusicUtils]
    The easiest way to view the log is using a PC and logcat, but if you don't have a way to run it that way, in the latest beta build 3.1.13, I added the ability to view a portion of Android log (at least records BeyondPod writes). You can find it in: Menu > More > Settings > Menu > View Logs... > View Android Log.
    Stefan
    Thank you. Share is (and has been) unchecked. The problem seems to have started with Android 4.2.2.
    To reproduce the problem, I deleted Media Storage, rebooted, forced a media re-scan (and repaired the damage to Sound Settings), deleted a recent episode, changed that episode to new, and performed an update. The episode now appears at the top of Recent in Play Music, as shown in the attached screenshot.
    Both BP and System Logs are being forwarded by email.
    UPDATE: Perhaps this is the problem:
    03-28 10:32:32.511 V/BeyondPod(15926): Trying to scan file with incorrect storage root! Environment Root: /storage/emulated/0, File: /mnt/sdcard/BeyondPod/Podcasts/KCRWs Left Right Center_1332249779422/KCRWs Left Right Center-108791931.mp3 (0 ms. since last trace) [DownloadEngineNotificationManager]

    Last edited by JNavas; 03-28-2013 at 01:39 PM.
    Hope that helps,
    John
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