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Thread: Re-downloading old posts (NPR and WNYC)

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    I use Beyond Pod (with Presto!) mostly to listen to public radio podcast. This includes podcasts of specific programs with new "episodes" daily and weekly, and custom podcasts from NPR's Playlist. NPR's flash player in web browser lets users create their own playlist of specific stories or segments from All Things Considered, Morning Edition and other programs and then create a custom podcast feed (instead of listening to them in the web player). Because I end up with a large number (20-30) episodes in a given feed, Smart Play does not work well for me. Instead, I use Automatic Playlist to create a playlist from the feed (by playing the first episode).
    Public radio podcast feeds seem very susceptible to the same episode being downloaded more than once (with the prior download going to archived episodes) and to old episodes showing up in the feed days, weeks or months later. This can be annoying. I have used different podcast clients on my desktop (Replay AV, Winamp or iTunes) and they don't seem to have this problem; it appears unique to BeyondPod. I can appreciate that sometime the podcast publisher "tweaks" the episode and BeyondPod treats it as a new episode (the desktop podcast clients seem able to tell it's not new) but I can update a feed a second time, immediately after doing "mark all as read" to get rid of a bunch of old episodes and I get some more old episodes showing up (not necessarily the same ones as a minute before).
    I've gotten used to version 3.* and able to get it do what I want. Please don't change things again so I have to relearn the app again. Even if a new way seems better, there is something to be said for what's familiar.

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    As far as re-downloading episodes, have you tried to sync the aggregated NPR feed with Google Reader. Syncing with Reader often fixes those re-download issues because Reader uses a bit more sophisticated algorithm to detect episode changes.

    Any change we do to BeyondPod is always first released in a public beta version. We release BETA versions with only one purpose - to gather feedback from real users like you. We expect/hope/wish that people comment on the changes and tell us what works for them and what does not. We receive many feature suggestions thru all of our support channels and while we can't satisfy every one, we try really hard to add those features that make the most people happy. Unfortunately finding what works for most people is not easy and relies to a very large degree on the feedback we get from you, our users, who try the Beta versions.

    Stefan

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    Stefan, I have used Google Reader for podcasts with the Listen app. Unfortunately, there appears to be a significant time lag before Google updates their Reader feeds. Not a problem for most podcasts, but for news content Reader doesn't work too well.
    I've learned to work around the episode changes (NPR and WNYC seem especially fond of them). I mention it because ReplayAV, Winamp and iTunes don't seem to have this problem. Neither did the included podcast app on my old Nokia Symbian phone. It might be worth checking out how they avoid it.
    PS: Just had a feed disappear. The episode I downloaded is still in archives but not in the episode list. To access the feed I have to go to show read. A pain.

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    Update: I notice that when BP shows old (and read) episodes as "not read," it does not download them. Apparently, some part of BP knows that these are not new episodes. Also, BP seems often to keep bringing back some of the same old episodes.
    The Osgood File podcast is also prone to having old episodes resurrected.

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